Problem opening and running LBB

[RNBW]

I have just treated myself to a new laptop running windows 11 with an Intel Core Ultra 9.

It takes about a minute to open LBB and then running a program is a bit hit and miss as to how long it takes to start up. Sometimes it doesn't start at all.

Any ideas? Is there a problem with the Ultra 9 chip?

Is the problem with BB4W? No problems so far with BBCSDL2.

[guest]

It takes about a minute to open LBB and then running a program is a bit hit and miss as to how long it takes to start up. Sometimes it doesn't start at all.

That sounds suspiciously like a virus scanner taking a long time to verify that it's safe to run. Can you try whitelisting the folder in which LBB is installed to see if that helps?

LBB runs fine on this Windows 11 laptop (Intel vPRO i7) but I only use Windows Security (previously Windows Defender) for malware protection. I'd strongly advise not using McAfee or Norton.

[RNBW]

It takes about a minute to open LBB and then running a program is a bit hit and miss as to how long it takes to start up. Sometimes it doesn't start at all.

That sounds suspiciously like a virus scanner taking a long time to verify that it's safe to run. Can you try whitelisting the folder in which LBB is installed to see if that helps?

LBB runs fine on this Windows 11 laptop (Intel vPRO i7) but I only use Windows Security (previously Windows Defender) for malware protection. I'd strongly advise not using McAfee or Norton.

I use Eset. It was recommended by the Security Manager at a well known engineering company.

However, I've tried it with Eset, with Windows Security and with both disabled. There was no difference.

I ran the same LBB program in the LBB Editor and LB Workshop and the result was similar. LBB Editor took about a minute to open and LB Workshop opened immediately. However, the LBB Program took about a minute to open, but worked OK when it did.

I also tried BBC Basic for Windows. This opened immediately and I loaded the SHEET program This took about a minute to open, but worked OK when it did.

I have also an Address Book written in LBB and is executable. This takes a similar time to open but works fine when open.

I wondered if it was BB4W that was the problem. I believe it is 32bit and I wondered if this could be struggling with the Ultra 9 processor. Possibly not, because LB Workshop is 32bit and I've tried Purebasic 32bit and both load instantly.

[guest]

I believe it is 32bit and I wondered if this could be struggling with the Ultra 9 processor.

Struggling? x86-series processors (from both Intel and AMD) can be switched to a 32-bit mode, with no performance penalty - they run 32-bit code as fast as a 32-bit CPU would (faster, in fact, given that there are no modern 32-bit-only CPUs with which they can be compared).

Check using Task Manager what is happening during the initial start-up delay. What process is actually taking up the CPU time?

Bear in mind that BBC BASIC for Windows still runs in Windows 95 as confirmed by the screenshot below. This proves that it's as 'standard' and 'compliant' a 32-bit Windows application as it's possible to have!

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